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那么这是我们思考的这样一个智慧城市规划的内涵
So this is what we are thinking about, the meaning of such a smart city planning.

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包括自上而下自下而上的这样一个规划理念的这样一个这个结合
Including top-down, bottom-up, such a combination of planning ideas.

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那么以前是自上而下的
So it used to be top-down

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现在自下而上
Now bottom up

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我们就说可以利用大数据
We said we could use big data

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各种各样的这样一些平台
All kinds of these platforms

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了解老百姓的一些需求
Understand some of the needs of the people.

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社会底层的需求
Demand at the bottom of society

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两者能够结合起来
The two can be combined.

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还有就是我们要构建一个以大数据分析为核心的城市空间综合的这样
There is also that we have to build a big data analysis as the core of the urban space integrated so.

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一个研究
A study

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城市空间的一个综合的研究
A comprehensive study of urban space

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还有就是构建一个基于多规协同的一个智慧规划体系的这样一个架构
There is also the construction of a multi-rule coordination based on a smart planning system such a framework.

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那么当时也是给住建部在做一个多规融合的一个指南
At that time, it was also a guide for the Ministry of housing and construction to do a multi-regulation fusion.

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那时候提的这样一个框架
Such a framework was proposed at that time.

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就是说我们以数据业务和系统
That is to say, we use data services and systems.

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这样一个三大抓手
Such a three-handed grip

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来促进各个部门之间的一个互联互通
To promote a connectivity between departments

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最终实现一个协同
Finally achieve a synergy.

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最终一个协同
Final collaboration

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但实际上这个只是一个非常理想化的一个东西
But in fact this is only a very idealized thing.

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非常理想化的一种东西
A very idealized thing.

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因为你数据整合不起来
Because you can't integrate the data.

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平台整合构建不起来
Platform integration cannot be constructed

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这些东西都是空谈
These things are empty talk.

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所以就是说我们现在在做多规融合
So that means that we are now doing a fusion of rules.

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那么你住建系统内部各种数据库都整合不起来
So you can't integrate all kinds of databases inside the building system.

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你还让发改委让国土局要把数据给你
You also asked the national development and reform commission to give you the data.

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那根本不可能的
That's impossible.

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我们系统内部很多数据都是相互在设置壁垒
A lot of data inside our system is putting up barriers to each other.

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还何况跟其他的部门
Besides, with other departments.

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还有就是规划建设和管理的一个一体化的一个集成一体化的集成
There is also the planning, construction and management of an integrated integration of an integrated integration.

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那么这些东西我觉得也是放在这样一个数据平台基础之上来进行一个
So these things, I think, are also on the basis of such a data platform to carry out a.

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数字化的集成
Digital integration

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那么这是我们我们也在做一些智慧城市的规划的这样一些工作
So this is what we are doing, we are also doing some smart city planning, such work.

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主要是一些顶层规划
Mainly some top level planning.

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我们到现在我两做了两个
We've done two by now.

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一个是南京的一个新城
One is a new city in Nanjing.

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还有一个是河北的阵地
Another is the position of Hebei.

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河北的政令
Hebei's decree

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那么这是当时我们还投标了
Then this is when we also bid.

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当时还投标天津的一个项目
At that time, he also bid for a project in Tianjin.

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实际上做这些项目从经济效益来讲是很划不来的
In fact, to do these projects in terms of economic efficiency is not worthwhile.

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但是我觉得我们是需要去做
But I think we need to do it

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因为我们要去跟那些it企业pp去PK当时我们在天津去投标天津
Because we want to go with those it enterprises pp to PK, then we went to Tianjin to bid Tianjin.

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的东丽区的一个智慧城市总体规划
A master plan of a smart city in Dongli district

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当时实际上就是说他们动力对我们这个方案还是比较满意的
At that time, in fact, that is to say, their motivation is still relatively satisfied with our plan.

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而且顶层规划是我们做
And we do the top planning

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但是下面的信息化的技术解决方案
But the following information technology solutions

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是由我们当时也拉了中兴通讯来做技术上的支撑
It was by then that we also pulled ZTE to do the technical support.

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所以我们是做顶层的这样一些规划的一些内容
So we are doing the top level of some of the planning content.

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但是最后这个项目还是被神州数码给PK掉
But in the end, the project was sent to PK by the Chinese digital.

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但实际上就是说
But it actually means

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我觉得这里边我们是有很多的工作去做
I think we have a lot of work to do here.

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当时这个完了之后
When this was over

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我就对这个问题有一些感想
I have some thoughts on this question.

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我们就写了一篇文章
We just wrote an article.

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反正投到国际城市规划上去了
In any case, to the international urban planning up.

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就是说我们怎么样去构建一个我们从规划的角度
That is to say, how do we build a project from a planning perspective?

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空间规划角度来考虑的我们智慧城市的一个总体规划的框架
Space planning perspective to consider our smart city as a general planning framework.

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那么这个框架也是我们所构想的
So, this framework is what we have in mind.

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我们就想把这样一个感知层的基础之上
We want to build on such a layer of perception.

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我们能够从这样一些市政空间
We can get some municipal space from

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从产业空间
From industrial space

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从交通和这样一个交通空间
From traffic and such a traffic space.

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还有就是说居民的生活出行等等
And that is to say, residents' life, travel and so on.

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能够把这样数据能够按照部门能够整合到一起
To be able to put such data in accordance with the department can be integrated together.

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来做一个智慧城市的一个顶层的设计这样一个理念
To do a smart city, a top-level design, such a concept.

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像我们在河北正定
Like we are in Zhengding, Hebei

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也就是我们习总书记工作过的地方
That is, where general secretary Xi worked.

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当时我们也去做正定的智慧城市的规划的工作
At that time, we also went to do the planning of the smart city.

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完了之后
After that

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我们又给他引进了拉了很多的企业
We introduced him a lot of enterprises.

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it企业去介绍给他们
It enterprises to introduce them.

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然后给他们搭建了一个平台
And then set up a platform for them

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让他们让it企业能够在这样一个基础上
Let them let it enterprises on such a basis.

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能够去做下一步的技术解决方案
Be able to do the next technical solution

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我觉得就是说我们可以探讨这样一个模式
I think that means that we can explore such a model.

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怎么样去规划师来介入到这个领域
How to get a planner to get involved in this field

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因为这个领域如果你不去介入的话
Because if you don't get involved in this area

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以后it企业他自己的城市规划师也会培养起来
After it enterprises, his own urban planners will be trained up.

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那么就会和我们传统的规划院之间去进行进行一个竞争
Then there will be a competition with our traditional planning Institute.

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这也是这样一个伦敦的智慧城市
This is also such a city of wisdom in London.

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它所提出来这样一些框架
It proposes such frameworks.

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那么像这也是老百姓所关注的这样一些问题
So, this is also the concern of the people of such a number of issues.

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一些社会问题
Some social problems

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还有应急管理的这样一些问题
There are some problems with emergency management.

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那么这是我们当时北京暴雨灾害
So this was the storm disaster in Beijing.

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我们从这样一个微博平台上收集的这样一些数据
We collected some data from such a micro-blog platform.

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那么我们写的一篇文章就是说
So an article we wrote says

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这也是涉及到城市管理方面的
This is also related to urban management.

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那么这也是我们一篇文章里边所提到的一个智慧的城市规划的一个
So this is also one of the smart city plans mentioned in our article.

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框架
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那么核心的还是怎么样更好的利用大数据
So, what is the core of the better use of big data?

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对我们空间的这样一个系统进行一个综合的评价
A comprehensive evaluation of such a system in our space.

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能够提出各种的这样一些解决方案
Can come up with a variety of such solutions.

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在文章上面也都有
It's also in the article.

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那么第二个方面就是智慧的产业发展规划
Then the second aspect is the intelligent industrial development planning.

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智慧的产业发展规划
Intelligent industrial development planning

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那么这一块就是说现在也是现在也是很多方这些方面的一些内容
So this piece means that now is also now a lot of parties, some of these aspects of the content.

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各种各样的智慧园区
All kinds of smart parks

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都都在相继崛起
All are rising one after another

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但是这挂羊头卖狗肉都是挂羊头卖狗肉
But the head of the sheep sells dog meat, and the head of the sheep sells dog meat.

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有的
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完了之后也是为了拿到土地
After that, it was also to get the land.

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拿到土地
Get the land

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而且现在有一个很大的问题
And now there's a big problem

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现在很多的开发区管委会要做智慧园区
Now a lot of development zone management committee to do the wisdom of the park.

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都是在找it企业去做
Are looking for it enterprises to do.

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他们觉得智慧园区就是做信息化
They feel that the smart park is to do information technology.

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但是我一直觉得我们的智慧园区的总体规划
But I have always felt that our wisdom park's overall planning.

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让信息化让it企业去做
Let informatization let it enterprise do

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这多少是有点问题的
There is something wrong with this

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我想的一种模式就是说是由规划师来牵头
One of the models I think is that the planner takes the lead.

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在带着一个技术团队
With a technical team

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然后来做
And do it

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本着更好的为这样一个开发区产业园区为他服务
In the better for such a development zone industrial park for him.

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因为智慧园区不仅仅是信息化基础设施的建设
Because the smart park is not only the construction of information infrastructure.

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最关键的还有一些这样一些空间
Most importantly, there are some such spaces.

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那么包括一些创新空间
So there's some room for innovation

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各种人才等等
All kinds of talents and so on

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这样去培养
To cultivate in this way

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所以就是说在这里边我们是有很多的一些工作去做了
So we have a lot of work to do here.

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那么这是我们做的一些研究
So this is some of the research that we did

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实证的一些研究
Some empirical studies

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那么还有一块就是说我们是需要去做的
Then there is another piece which means we need to do it.

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智慧基础设施的一个整合
An integration of intelligent infrastructure

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智慧基础设施的一个整合
An integration of intelligent infrastructure

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那么我们以前都是说马路像拉链一样的不停的在拉
So we used to say that the road was pulling like a zipper

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实际上就是说这也是各个部门之间的整合没有做好
In fact, that is, this is the integration between the various departments did not do a good job.

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那么我们现在就是说每个部门都有自己的信息平台
So we now mean that each department has its own information platform.

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规划局有发改委
The planning Bureau has the national development and reform commission

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有国土局都有自己的信息中心
All land administrations have their own information centres.

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那么我们的智慧城市建设从国家来讲
Then our wisdom city construction from the national perspective.

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各个部委都在推
The ministries are pushing

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从省里边来讲
From the provincial side

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从智慧城市试点
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住建部推的试点
The pilot project of the Ministry of housing and construction

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从国家市住建部科技部
From the Ministry of science and technology of the Ministry of housing and construction of the state municipality

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省里边是科技住建厅
The provincial capital border is the building hall of science and technology.

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科技厅
Science and technology department

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到了市里边又是五花八门
There are all kinds of things in the city.

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发改委有规划局有住建局
NDRC has planning Bureau and housing construction Bureau

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有政府办
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基本上都是五花八门的
It's basically all kinds of things.

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所以就是说这对应下来很多协调的一些内容
So that means that this corresponds to a lot of coordination of some of the content.

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协调一些内容都很多
Coordinate a lot of things

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那么我们去看的比较好像我们去看的像山东威海
So what we went to see is more like what we went to see like Weihai in Shandong.

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威海做的不错
Weihai is doing well.

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她做的不错
She did a good job.

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他就是信息的
He's information

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它是各种政府部门的一个平台
It is a platform for various government departments.

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是整合到一起
Is to integrate

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由一个部门来做
By a department

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还有像湖北的宜昌
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湖北的宜昌
Yichang, Hubei province

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它的一个地理空间数据库做的也都非常好
It's a geospatial database to do very well.

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它是由一个政府的副秘书长来协调一个政府公共平台的一个建设
It is a government by the deputy secretary-general to coordinate the construction of a government public platform.

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那么最后这样一个平台能够支撑起很多的这样一个部门的一个应用
Then finally, such a platform can support a lot of such a department of an application.

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很多部门的应用
Application of many departments

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那么还有就是信息基础设施的选点和布局的问题
Then there is the information infrastructure selection and layout issues.

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选点和布局的问题
Selection and layout issues

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那么这个问题也不是也不是光是你信息化做的事情
So this problem is not, nor is it just your information to do things.

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那么我们的这样一些基础设施的建设
So, we have some infrastructure construction.

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你比如wifi的覆盖
You like the coverage of wifi.

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wifi的覆盖式
Coverage of wifi

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那也要考虑需求
That also needs to be considered.

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这里信号的强弱
The strength of the signal here

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它到底覆盖的范围
The extent to which it covers

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你要考虑到人口
You have to consider the population.

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考虑到这里边
Take this into account

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有时候可能他的一个需求等等这些方面
Sometimes, maybe one of his needs, etc.

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那么不仅仅是我就在要在这里建
So it's not just me that's going to build it here

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我考虑我技术上的方便
I consider my technical convenience.

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就像我要建高铁
It's like I'm going to build a high-speed rail.

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我就考虑到我的高铁建设的一个成本
I took into account the cost of my high-speed rail construction.

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我根本不考虑到城市的需求
I have no regard for the needs of the city.

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我到底把这个车站摆在哪里
Where the hell did I put this station?

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有时候我摆的很外面
Sometimes I put it out

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那么我们的城市居民就用起来很不方便
Then our city residents are very inconvenient to use.

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所以就说就是这样一个问题
So this is the problem

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怎么样去协同这个问题
How to cooperate with this problem?

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就是说不同类型基础设施之间的协同
That is to say, synergies between different types of infrastructure

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公共服务智慧化
Intellectualization of public services

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那么就像我们的医疗
So like our medical care

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那么当时我们去看石家庄的智慧医疗的一个平台的时候
So when we went to see a platform for smart medicine in Shijiazhuang

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而实际上就是说这个数据客户可以调出来
In fact, that means that the data customers can be transferred out.

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它是全市统筹起来
It is the whole city to coordinate.

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全市通出去
Go out through the whole city

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从石家庄市到下面的县
From Shijiazhuang to the next county

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所有的公立医院就是说它的一个每个人的账户
All public hospitals, that is, it's a personal account.

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他的个人的就医的信息都有一个统一的账号
His personal medical information has a unified account number.

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那么就是说你比如我输入这个账号之后
So that means you, for example, after I input this account.

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我就能查到这个人
I can find this guy

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他这个一年去了多少次医院
How many times did he go to the hospital this year?

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他开了什么药
What medicine did he prescribe?

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上面数据都一清二楚
The data are clear

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他花了多少钱
How much did he spend?

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他是自费的
He is at his own expense.

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还是他是用的医保
Or is he using health insurance?

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上面都很清楚
It's all clear

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我觉得这就是很重要的这样一个数据
I think this is a very important data.

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很重要一个数据
Very important data

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所以我们现在也在关注
So we are also looking at

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怎么样能够把这样一些数据和我们的一些其他的数据能够匹配起来
How can we match some of these data with some of our other data?

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为我们的居民的健康
For the health of our inhabitants

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包括其他方面去这个服务
Including other aspects to this service.

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还有就是城市地区范围内的信息和知识的一个平等的获取
There is also an equal access to information and knowledge within urban areas.

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权威发布和共享
Authoritative release and sharing

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基于为之服务的一些资源和信息整合
Some resources and information integration based on service

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那么这一块我们也在和法国的一些学者在进行一些合作
So we are also working with some French scholars.

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怎么样去在一个城市一个地区范围内能够更好的促进它支持的流动和
How to go within a city and a region can better promote its support for mobility and.

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共享
Sharing

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式流动和共享
Flow and sharing

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那么这是国外学者他里边的一张图
So this is a picture of a foreign scholar inside him.

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它实际上就讲了各种各样的基础设施
It actually talks about all kinds of infrastructure

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能够在Ict信息通讯技术设施的整合基础之上
Ability to integrate ICT infrastructure

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能够更好地高效率的为城市的公共服务提升
Be able to improve the public service of the city better and efficiently.

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提高城市公共服务的这样一种能力
Improving the capacity of urban public services

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那么这是伦敦的智慧城市的这样一个图
So this is a map of the city of wisdom in London

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它里边实际上就各种管线都在地下室看不见的
It's practically invisible in the basement for all kinds of pipes.

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都看不见
Out of sight

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但是这也是一个实际上也涉及到各种技术基础之设施之间的这样一个
But it is also one that actually involves various technological infrastructure.

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整合
Integration

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基础设施的服务和服务的这样一个智能化
Such an intelligence of infrastructure services and services.

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这也是在住建部的这样一个指标体系里边也是要求非常高的
This is also in the Ministry of housing and construction of such an index system, which is also very high requirements.

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那么我们去看很多的这样一个这个平台
Then we go to see a lot of such a platform.

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那么你包括供热的
So you include heating

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宫殿的供水的
Palace water supply

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那么像有的地方就做得比较好
Then, as in some places, it is better done.

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它的供水供热
Its water supply and heating

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因为北方的城市它要供热
Because it has to be heated in the northern city.

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那么供热就是说里边实际上就是说很多的东西浪费就比较严重
Then heating, that is, inside, that is to say, a lot of things waste is more serious.

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那么它的数据有的是可以到每一户每一户
So, some of its data can be to every household, every household.

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那么每一户的数据它都能够掌握24小时的一个变化
Then every household's data, it can grasp a 24-hour change.

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那么这样的话对它的一个能耗
So in this case, it's a power consumption.

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包括一些从事一些大数据研究
Including some engaged in some big data research.

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怎么样去提升它的一个管理
How to improve one of its management?

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包括一些应急
Including some emergencies

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都是有非常积极的这样一个作用
Both have a very positive effect.

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这个数据如果再和其他的一些数据
If this data and some other data.

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包括现在国家也在建征信系统
Including now the country is also building credit collection system.

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征信系统像这些东西
The credit system is like this

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如果这些数据能够匹配起来
If these data can be matched

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可能这个可能它的意义就更大
Maybe it means more.