WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:16.690 For and just as you mentioned 2 00:00:16.690 --> 00:00:23.170 the growth rates for libra is said to have the highest growth rates of all german cities 3 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:26.740 And you see here in twenty six years 4 00:00:26.970 --> 00:00:29.060 eighty seven to twenty thirteen 5 00:00:29.060 --> 00:00:31.650 IT's been twenty one percent growth 6 00:00:31.650 --> 00:00:32.220 right 7 00:00:32.460 --> 00:00:34.940 So that's less than one percent per year 8 00:00:34.940 --> 00:00:36.920 And that's the highest of all them 9 00:00:38.940 --> 00:00:39.880 Um 10 00:00:41.390 --> 00:00:44.700 so but still people 11 00:00:44.700 --> 00:00:49.520 I mean people have to have to build a new because the market is very tight 12 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:50.040 Actually 13 00:00:50.040 --> 00:00:51.900 IT's very difficult to get something 14 00:00:51.900 --> 00:00:55.290 particularly if you if you don't earn a high weight 15 00:00:56.290 --> 00:00:57.160 um 16 00:00:57.740 --> 00:01:00.120 so you need a new district development 17 00:01:00.120 --> 00:01:04.600 You need you have you need to have inviting conditions for investors 18 00:01:05.440 --> 00:01:05.960 uh 19 00:01:05.960 --> 00:01:07.760 or for citizens organizations 20 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:10.320 And the case will tell a story about 21 00:01:10.320 --> 00:01:10.640 uh 22 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:13.630 people invest in themselves in houses 23 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:18.390 and you need also inviting conditions for future for future inhabitants 24 00:01:18.390 --> 00:01:23.420 And how can you ensure that in the nineteen nineties 25 00:01:23.420 --> 00:01:31.250 And this is kind of a historical case because the development of war was planned in ninety three to ninety nine 26 00:01:31.560 --> 00:01:33.950 That was a planning phase of this development 27 00:01:35.320 --> 00:01:36.000 So 28 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:36.780 um 29 00:01:37.580 --> 00:01:38.900 in the in that period 30 00:01:38.900 --> 00:01:39.480 you know 31 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:47.850 video companies of the world summit in leo and ninety two has just established sustainable urban development 32 00:01:48.210 --> 00:01:49.420 And um 33 00:01:49.420 --> 00:01:52.390 also since the late eighties 34 00:01:52.390 --> 00:01:56.200 people realized that the cities cannot grow to the outside so much 35 00:01:56.200 --> 00:01:59.940 but we need to focus on the inside inner development 36 00:02:00.320 --> 00:02:00.740 um 37 00:02:00.740 --> 00:02:05.380 mixed use then increased density of the of the urban development 38 00:02:05.380 --> 00:02:09.090 So these were the slogans at the time and still are 39 00:02:10.330 --> 00:02:14.040 And then the german building law provides for a fast track development 40 00:02:14.040 --> 00:02:15.200 Within ten years 41 00:02:15.200 --> 00:02:16.650 a particular scheme 42 00:02:16.980 --> 00:02:17.870 um 43 00:02:18.830 --> 00:02:19.060 uh 44 00:02:19.060 --> 00:02:20.320 instead of our convictions 45 00:02:20.320 --> 00:02:20.860 miles an hour 46 00:02:20.860 --> 00:02:25.260 giving a particular incentive also for public participation 47 00:02:27.740 --> 00:02:28.390 Um 48 00:02:28.390 --> 00:02:32.600 the the participation of affected bodies is required in that scheme 49 00:02:34.500 --> 00:02:35.980 So this was the opportunity 50 00:02:35.980 --> 00:02:36.500 actually 51 00:02:36.500 --> 00:02:40.040 this area was a french military area 52 00:02:40.040 --> 00:02:40.400 You know 53 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:41.740 after the second world war 54 00:02:41.740 --> 00:02:44.940 there were there was military areas all over germany 55 00:02:45.150 --> 00:02:45.510 uh 56 00:02:45.510 --> 00:02:46.130 british 57 00:02:46.130 --> 00:02:46.980 canadian 58 00:02:46.980 --> 00:02:48.010 american 59 00:02:48.010 --> 00:02:48.670 and friends 60 00:02:48.670 --> 00:02:49.380 and then fly work 61 00:02:49.380 --> 00:02:52.750 We had this area here of the french army 62 00:02:52.940 --> 00:02:57.330 And after the fall of the berlin wall and the french army left in ninety two 63 00:02:58.520 --> 00:02:59.340 So 64 00:03:00.440 --> 00:03:00.830 um 65 00:03:00.830 --> 00:03:03.520 it was clear this is an extremely use 66 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:04.650 This is the city center 67 00:03:04.650 --> 00:03:06.250 This is a historic city center 68 00:03:06.250 --> 00:03:09.820 So this is very close and it's it's also in the middle of the green 69 00:03:09.820 --> 00:03:11.770 So it's a very privileged area 70 00:03:11.770 --> 00:03:12.290 actually 71 00:03:12.710 --> 00:03:15.620 So this is a primary opportunity for development 72 00:03:15.900 --> 00:03:16.310 Ok 73 00:03:16.310 --> 00:03:24.450 And then some people mobilized actually not only as much before the the city administration was realizing this opportunity 74 00:03:24.690 --> 00:03:29.330 People move there already with the with the mobile homes 75 00:03:29.330 --> 00:03:29.980 You know 76 00:03:30.220 --> 00:03:31.000 um 77 00:03:31.460 --> 00:03:32.460 more hippy people 78 00:03:32.460 --> 00:03:36.550 you would say maybe you could characterize or or actually alternative people 79 00:03:37.030 --> 00:03:37.910 And they said 80 00:03:37.910 --> 00:03:38.160 ah 81 00:03:38.160 --> 00:03:41.190 let's let's develop a model district here because it's so close 82 00:03:41.190 --> 00:03:43.550 You know we can easily um 83 00:03:43.550 --> 00:03:45.260 get around without cars 84 00:03:45.260 --> 00:03:49.570 so make it a model district for but know you know very much about the law 85 00:03:49.570 --> 00:03:51.360 I guess the history 86 00:03:51.540 --> 00:03:51.900 Ok 87 00:03:51.900 --> 00:03:52.810 so i'll be short 88 00:03:52.810 --> 00:04:00.240 But the phone baba was organ was founded as an organization to actually organize the participation of the people 89 00:04:00.420 --> 00:04:06.570 And what I find really a key to the development later on is that they were successful to get money 90 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:08.520 not from the municipality 91 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:10.970 but from the funding organizations 92 00:04:10.970 --> 00:04:11.820 from uh 93 00:04:11.820 --> 00:04:12.850 the german uh 94 00:04:12.850 --> 00:04:15.960 environmental foundation from the eu 95 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:16.460 Again 96 00:04:16.460 --> 00:04:18.170 they got in your money 97 00:04:18.390 --> 00:04:18.660 uh 98 00:04:18.660 --> 00:04:25.800 for actually there organization of participation and they won the dubai award and other awards 99 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:29.720 So this made him very a very strong voice in this 100 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:30.200 um 101 00:04:30.200 --> 00:04:31.540 in this development 102 00:04:31.540 --> 00:04:32.340 um 103 00:04:32.610 --> 00:04:33.390 process 104 00:04:33.850 --> 00:04:34.850 And they organized 105 00:04:34.850 --> 00:04:35.410 as you know 106 00:04:35.410 --> 00:04:41.330 they organized the future inhabitants or or kind of alternative experts to really develop 107 00:04:41.330 --> 00:04:41.670 uh 108 00:04:41.670 --> 00:04:42.430 um 109 00:04:42.650 --> 00:04:42.900 uh 110 00:04:42.900 --> 00:04:47.360 very explicit ideas about how to make such a district uh 111 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:49.020 sustainable model district 112 00:04:50.660 --> 00:04:56.450 And there's a lot of anecdotes I could tell about what actually made the mayor then get them on board 113 00:04:56.650 --> 00:05:00.940 because there they made a bit to the habitat conference 114 00:05:00.940 --> 00:05:01.260 uh 115 00:05:01.260 --> 00:05:03.470 to become a best practice 116 00:05:03.760 --> 00:05:04.570 Um 117 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:05.300 uh 118 00:05:05.300 --> 00:05:06.060 development 119 00:05:06.060 --> 00:05:06.320 you know 120 00:05:06.320 --> 00:05:09.760 the plan of the of the board development as best practice 121 00:05:09.760 --> 00:05:11.830 And they won actually the case 122 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:18.040 And then the mayor was asked whether he would like to present and then he could could not really deny 123 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:23.200 And then that's the way they got actually his approval of their plans 124 00:05:23.640 --> 00:05:24.260 Um 125 00:05:24.260 --> 00:05:27.940 so it was then actually making the plans for the model district 126 00:05:29.060 --> 00:05:29.710 Anyway 127 00:05:29.710 --> 00:05:30.000 Um 128 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:33.090 just one example of ambition 129 00:05:33.320 --> 00:05:35.380 They said these people said 130 00:05:35.380 --> 00:05:35.760 um 131 00:05:35.760 --> 00:05:39.600 actually we don't need so many cars because we are so close to the city 132 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:40.660 The city is small 133 00:05:40.660 --> 00:05:41.880 we are in the green 134 00:05:41.880 --> 00:05:43.740 So we don't need many cars 135 00:05:43.890 --> 00:05:45.350 those people living here 136 00:05:45.350 --> 00:05:50.220 So we may call this blue area free of parking places 137 00:05:50.630 --> 00:05:53.530 And we just have the two big um 138 00:05:53.530 --> 00:05:59.960 garages where everybody has to park the car so that the car is not closest to the people 139 00:05:59.960 --> 00:06:05.550 But actually the trend the tram will go here will be much closer on the bicycle 140 00:06:05.550 --> 00:06:07.790 And so the choice is different 141 00:06:07.790 --> 00:06:10.470 IT's kind of before even the term was invented 142 00:06:10.470 --> 00:06:13.420 but they thought about nudging um 143 00:06:13.420 --> 00:06:14.490 in that sense 144 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:24.110 And then a second very important aspect is that actually they convinced the city council to give all this land 145 00:06:24.250 --> 00:06:27.190 not to corporate um 146 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:28.670 developers 147 00:06:29.060 --> 00:06:34.970 but to seventy percent give the land to people as in groups to build for themselves 148 00:06:36.440 --> 00:06:37.980 not to buy from a developer 149 00:06:37.980 --> 00:06:45.800 but actually if hire an architect as a group of of individual private families or households and get 150 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:46.560 um 151 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:49.620 the scheme developed for themselves 152 00:06:51.170 --> 00:06:53.820 So just fifteen years later 153 00:06:53.820 --> 00:06:55.540 you have many of you have been there 154 00:06:55.540 --> 00:06:57.140 I guess already 155 00:06:57.270 --> 00:06:57.790 Um 156 00:06:57.790 --> 00:06:59.030 because there's many 157 00:06:59.030 --> 00:07:01.310 many visitors every day 158 00:07:01.310 --> 00:07:02.230 Um 159 00:07:02.660 --> 00:07:03.140 um 160 00:07:03.140 --> 00:07:03.540 you know 161 00:07:03.540 --> 00:07:08.550 IT's five thousand five hundred people living there now on thirty eight hectares 162 00:07:09.400 --> 00:07:11.430 And just a few impressions 163 00:07:11.430 --> 00:07:11.720 you know 164 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:12.800 from from me 165 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:14.760 I just went there on saturday 166 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:15.610 um 167 00:07:15.610 --> 00:07:16.760 on saturday 168 00:07:16.760 --> 00:07:18.300 april before I left 169 00:07:18.710 --> 00:07:19.540 Um 170 00:07:19.790 --> 00:07:20.370 um 171 00:07:20.370 --> 00:07:21.500 the flea market 172 00:07:21.500 --> 00:07:26.490 just to give you a little impression on how it feels to live there 173 00:07:26.810 --> 00:07:27.350 Um 174 00:07:27.350 --> 00:07:29.680 IT's really crowded the market place here 175 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:31.720 This is one of the barrack buildings 176 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:31.950 You know 177 00:07:31.950 --> 00:07:41.680 you recognize that this has been built in the nineteen thirties by the german army then and then was the officers casino of the french 178 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:45.050 And now IT's been turned in as a communITy center 179 00:07:45.270 --> 00:07:45.490 uh 180 00:07:45.490 --> 00:07:48.480 with a p v system and shared ownership on top 181 00:07:48.730 --> 00:07:49.050 Um 182 00:07:49.050 --> 00:07:52.100 but this is just people meeting to buy a device 183 00:07:54.620 --> 00:07:55.600 And um 184 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:57.080 people realize their dreams 185 00:07:57.080 --> 00:07:59.020 And I think really that's for me 186 00:07:59.020 --> 00:08:01.040 that's really a key explanation 187 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:05.040 explanatory factor that many people said this model district 188 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:05.650 Ah 189 00:08:05.650 --> 00:08:08.760 what what would I like to have in my neighborhood 190 00:08:08.760 --> 00:08:11.320 And some people came up with this idea to have uh 191 00:08:11.320 --> 00:08:12.270 an oven 192 00:08:12.470 --> 00:08:14.000 a wood fired oven 193 00:08:14.520 --> 00:08:18.380 They said just fancy said we would fancy a wood fired oven 194 00:08:18.380 --> 00:08:24.440 And now they organize and on fire it every third saturday or one saturday a month 195 00:08:24.440 --> 00:08:29.640 And you can actually there is a a telephone number where you can phone and say 196 00:08:29.770 --> 00:08:33.620 I would like to make my pizza on my bread or something 197 00:08:33.620 --> 00:08:33.820 Uh 198 00:08:33.820 --> 00:08:34.940 can you give me the key 199 00:08:34.940 --> 00:08:37.520 You can just get the key and use the organ 200 00:08:38.020 --> 00:08:43.470 And then others said other kids were asked what kind of tools they would like to have and so on 201 00:08:43.470 --> 00:08:54.810 But the thing is really you feel I think I mean i'm i'm living there and I feel that a lot of people actually felt invited to think about what they want in their environment 202 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:56.070 And they also 203 00:08:56.070 --> 00:09:01.560 I mean they shaved their own environment in the sense of their buildings of their architecture 204 00:09:01.560 --> 00:09:03.730 but also the public spaces 205 00:09:04.950 --> 00:09:10.590 And then another guy said he had to move from the countryside to ban and said 206 00:09:10.590 --> 00:09:12.130 i'll miss my chicken 207 00:09:12.130 --> 00:09:12.890 So he asked 208 00:09:12.890 --> 00:09:13.370 actually 209 00:09:13.370 --> 00:09:15.150 the um 210 00:09:15.660 --> 00:09:18.050 the result 211 00:09:18.290 --> 00:09:18.610 uh 212 00:09:18.610 --> 00:09:21.120 utilities running the power plant 213 00:09:21.290 --> 00:09:22.910 This is the power plant here 214 00:09:23.570 --> 00:09:27.600 And the people accept both fires power plants in their neighborhood 215 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:30.530 which is also not something that you have in all neighborhoods 216 00:09:30.530 --> 00:09:33.390 but people are very happy um 217 00:09:33.390 --> 00:09:35.230 about and nobody complains 218 00:09:35.230 --> 00:09:37.490 And on the on the morn of this 219 00:09:37.490 --> 00:09:38.160 um 220 00:09:38.160 --> 00:09:42.970 this guys I want to have my chicken and the utility said okay 221 00:09:42.970 --> 00:09:44.370 if you mourn the rest of them 222 00:09:44.370 --> 00:09:49.140 if you more the rest of them on long uh-huh 223 00:09:49.350 --> 00:09:51.130 IT's really difficult sentence 224 00:09:51.810 --> 00:09:52.570 Um 225 00:09:52.570 --> 00:09:54.400 then you can have your sequence there 226 00:09:54.620 --> 00:10:00.470 And he's got really nice garden and and other again 227 00:10:00.470 --> 00:10:01.130 other people 228 00:10:01.130 --> 00:10:02.500 And I was proud of that 229 00:10:02.690 --> 00:10:10.650 People said we want actually not only people who can afford to build houses for themselves to live in this new area 230 00:10:10.650 --> 00:10:13.640 but we want to have people also with a lower budget 231 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:14.670 um 232 00:10:14.670 --> 00:10:16.850 being able to live there 233 00:10:17.010 --> 00:10:20.690 And we found this cooperative um 234 00:10:20.690 --> 00:10:21.280 game over 235 00:10:21.280 --> 00:10:22.200 IT's called 236 00:10:22.450 --> 00:10:24.910 And we built four houses like this 237 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:26.670 seventy seven units 238 00:10:26.670 --> 00:10:29.020 and we have two hundred people living there 239 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:30.060 Um 240 00:10:30.060 --> 00:10:32.440 and this is one cooperative 241 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:33.130 So we 242 00:10:34.070 --> 00:10:34.460 um 243 00:10:34.460 --> 00:10:35.580 kind of um 244 00:10:35.580 --> 00:10:40.640 form the organization who's renting out the flats to ourselves 245 00:10:41.650 --> 00:10:44.710 So we nobody is actually nobody is benefiting 246 00:10:44.710 --> 00:10:51.180 nobody is profiting from our rents except ourselves and among us 247 00:10:51.180 --> 00:10:51.660 Again 248 00:10:51.660 --> 00:10:57.220 we were forced actually to have all the first floor at the ground floor uh 249 00:10:57.220 --> 00:10:58.630 needs to be um 250 00:10:58.630 --> 00:11:00.170 commercial use 251 00:11:00.740 --> 00:11:05.210 So we were thinking her who could we actually rent it out to 252 00:11:05.530 --> 00:11:07.670 And we don't really have an idea 253 00:11:07.670 --> 00:11:16.430 So people said we just create another cooperative for retailing because he would like to have an organic shop get our neighborhood 254 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:19.430 And they created this cooperative 255 00:11:19.680 --> 00:11:20.040 Um 256 00:11:20.040 --> 00:11:21.090 but here's london 257 00:11:21.090 --> 00:11:23.690 IT's called and all organic shop 258 00:11:24.330 --> 00:11:32.110 And again nobody is if I I shop there and nobody's having any profit from my shopping there 259 00:11:32.110 --> 00:11:33.210 except for myself 260 00:11:33.210 --> 00:11:36.150 with my other core cooperative 261 00:11:37.190 --> 00:11:37.380 uh 262 00:11:37.380 --> 00:11:38.970 members of the cooperative 263 00:11:41.160 --> 00:11:41.920 And actually 264 00:11:41.920 --> 00:11:42.100 uh 265 00:11:42.100 --> 00:11:43.660 they they just they're very proud 266 00:11:43.660 --> 00:11:48.980 They they've got a turnover of two point two million euro on just hundred and twenty square meters 267 00:11:48.980 --> 00:11:52.400 which is said to be the highest turnover of any again 268 00:11:52.400 --> 00:11:54.010 you shop per square meter 269 00:11:55.140 --> 00:12:00.480 So actually it's cheaper to buy their compared to an a two hour the big 270 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:02.690 the big organic shops 271 00:12:02.690 --> 00:12:05.020 the chains of supermarkets 272 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:05.570 Uh 273 00:12:05.570 --> 00:12:09.090 IT's cheaper to buy just just there this stuff 274 00:12:14.040 --> 00:12:14.460 no 275 00:12:14.460 --> 00:12:15.860 IT's just retailing 276 00:12:16.100 --> 00:12:18.430 So we buy organic organic 277 00:12:18.430 --> 00:12:18.740 um 278 00:12:18.740 --> 00:12:19.230 stuff 279 00:12:19.230 --> 00:12:19.460 Uh 280 00:12:19.460 --> 00:12:20.860 IT's actually not only food 281 00:12:20.860 --> 00:12:22.330 IT's IT's um 282 00:12:22.330 --> 00:12:26.320 IT's a lITtle of cosmetics and stuff everyday use 283 00:12:26.560 --> 00:12:27.280 um 284 00:12:27.640 --> 00:12:28.460 um 285 00:12:28.620 --> 00:12:38.550 but all organic from actually as a a big wholesaler on just organic or several hostile um 286 00:12:38.550 --> 00:12:40.830 retails and uh 287 00:12:40.830 --> 00:12:42.710 also individual pharmacists 288 00:12:43.490 --> 00:12:44.080 um 289 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:52.020 delivering to to the shop and so again 290 00:12:52.020 --> 00:12:53.190 in the cooperative 291 00:12:53.190 --> 00:12:54.940 we've got a few days per year 292 00:12:54.940 --> 00:13:03.500 We maintain the garden and stuff with members just share in the work and enjoy the work 293 00:13:03.790 --> 00:13:08.070 And afterwards have a nice lunch because somebody else is cooked the soup 294 00:13:08.330 --> 00:13:14.800 So what I really want to stress here is the sense of of community that developed in the district 295 00:13:14.800 --> 00:13:18.780 And I think it's i've never seen it in any other district in that sense 296 00:13:19.020 --> 00:13:24.190 And it has to do with the fact that people felt advises to shape their environment 297 00:13:24.430 --> 00:13:27.460 And that this is some something I think uh 298 00:13:27.460 --> 00:13:29.100 important for urban planets 299 00:13:30.750 --> 00:13:31.910 And um 300 00:13:31.910 --> 00:13:33.640 just a few figures 301 00:13:33.640 --> 00:13:34.390 Um 302 00:13:34.660 --> 00:13:35.530 you know 303 00:13:35.530 --> 00:13:38.850 IT's the densest district of of labor 304 00:13:38.850 --> 00:13:40.150 You probably know 305 00:13:40.640 --> 00:13:40.970 Uh 306 00:13:40.970 --> 00:13:48.530 even then moderns and the developments we had in the sixties and seventies with high rising buildings 307 00:13:49.450 --> 00:13:51.280 because there's much more um 308 00:13:51.280 --> 00:13:53.560 distance in between the high rising buildings 309 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:56.290 And here we've got a higher much higher density 310 00:13:58.170 --> 00:14:03.270 And I mean it's very difficult to find the place to live in in the long 311 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:03.720 uh 312 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:05.990 because the demand is so high 313 00:14:06.930 --> 00:14:09.600 So as I said 314 00:14:09.820 --> 00:14:14.600 people find a unique opportunity to shape their environment and committed themselves 315 00:14:14.600 --> 00:14:16.410 actually not only to invest 316 00:14:16.590 --> 00:14:17.520 but also to 317 00:14:17.520 --> 00:14:18.130 uh 318 00:14:18.130 --> 00:14:19.160 to maintain 319 00:14:20.930 --> 00:14:24.270 And you see this this commitment 320 00:14:24.330 --> 00:14:27.560 I hope you have the terms 321 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:37.210 And and it's there's many particular very contingent actually factors who came together to make this this possible 322 00:14:37.210 --> 00:14:38.350 But we could discuss 323 00:14:39.170 --> 00:14:45.100 And what I want to stress really is also the shaping of the public spaces 324 00:14:45.810 --> 00:14:46.600 Because this is 325 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:46.900 you know 326 00:14:46.900 --> 00:14:49.420 in front of the courtiers laden 327 00:14:49.740 --> 00:14:50.530 um 328 00:14:51.580 --> 00:14:56.610 the places have been changed in a way that you meet each other just by chance 329 00:14:56.610 --> 00:15:05.070 And then this that is helping very much in building the sense of we are kind of a community and and you meet your neighbors 330 00:15:05.310 --> 00:15:07.240 And so this um 331 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:08.660 the shaping of the spaces 332 00:15:08.660 --> 00:15:13.340 this is just the the cycle cycle and pedestrian area 333 00:15:13.340 --> 00:15:16.230 And then comes the tram and then the street 334 00:15:16.930 --> 00:15:21.680 I think this serving other places has been very important to slow 335 00:15:22.800 --> 00:15:23.510 So 336 00:15:23.510 --> 00:15:24.160 um 337 00:15:24.870 --> 00:15:27.040 summarizing on this mod city again 338 00:15:28.860 --> 00:15:30.070 some commitments 339 00:15:30.370 --> 00:15:36.530 but not that much follow up this wish to actually showcase 340 00:15:36.530 --> 00:15:38.440 And you see it again in berlin 341 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:39.100 for example 342 00:15:39.100 --> 00:15:40.190 everybody says 343 00:15:40.310 --> 00:15:40.650 ah 344 00:15:40.650 --> 00:15:42.950 we do smart city stuff also in berlin 345 00:15:42.950 --> 00:15:46.350 but it's only for the german industry to showcase their ability 346 00:15:46.350 --> 00:15:49.090 Actually it's needed only in mega cities 347 00:15:49.090 --> 00:15:53.460 not really in berlin because the infrastructure is is running 348 00:15:53.460 --> 00:15:55.190 And uh 349 00:15:55.190 --> 00:15:56.790 this is kind of an argument 350 00:15:57.230 --> 00:15:57.790 um 351 00:15:57.790 --> 00:16:02.400 which also is underlying some of the scepticism 352 00:16:04.610 --> 00:16:05.150 Uh 353 00:16:05.150 --> 00:16:08.730 i've already said this different political objectives 354 00:16:08.730 --> 00:16:14.150 risk averse administration and the lack of political support 355 00:16:17.700 --> 00:16:22.150 So what's and a positive outlook would be then again 356 00:16:22.150 --> 00:16:39.020 the case of pot shop for a visit that worked and a community oriented district development which I find very successful as an outlook 357 00:16:40.020 --> 00:16:41.020 And with that 358 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:44.780 just one last idea 359 00:16:44.950 --> 00:16:47.480 Maybe this community oriented planning 360 00:16:47.730 --> 00:16:52.030 I just came across this idea of the tang lao in in hong kong 361 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:59.090 And maybe this kind of development could also instruct future planning in many different places 362 00:17:00.740 --> 00:17:01.430 And with that 363 00:17:01.430 --> 00:17:03.750 I say thank you very much for your attention 364 00:17:04.760 --> 00:17:06.110 And i'm going to call this